[Pl-seminar] Fwd: [Boston Haskell] Thursday, September 29th, 7-9pm in the MIT CSAIL Reading Room

Mitchell Wand wand at ccs.neu.edu
Wed Sep 21 11:09:11 EDT 2011


I occasionally tell students that we professors get paid by the syllable.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Greg Morrisett <greg at eecs.harvard.edu>wrote:

> Heh, yeah.  I remember Simon PJ saying if only we had called
> monads "warm fuzzy thing" then it might have gotten traction earlier.
>
> -Greg
>
> On Sep 21, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Matthias Felleisen wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Absolutely. And we can distribute Racket via their successful system.
> >
> >
> > I should explain my remark.
> >
> > Version control is obviously a graph problem.
> > Categories are about graphs.
> > Connecting the two must happen sooner or later.
> > There might even be a benefit from doing so,
> > but count me as an extreme skeptic.
> >
> > None of this made me laugh and cry.
> >
> > What makes me laugh and cry when I see this kind of
> > announcement are the memories of encountering ordinary
> > programmers who complain about FP and their encounters:
> >
> > "I did ML, and they showed me how to write signatures
> > for groups, rings, and fields. So ML is really good for
> > algebra, but is it good for programming?"
> >
> > Substitute a whole bunch of bananas, apples, oranges,
> > and other names for the various technical terms in there
> > and you hear this remark 100s and 1000s of times.
> >
> > FP people aren't wrong in exploiting the most abstract
> > form of Category theory they want and anyone can think
> > of in their work. But they can't be wronger (new word!)
> > when they use these stupid words to present it to a
> > wide audience.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 21, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry for the group-reply, but you mean because they produced a
> >> running, working system (DARCS) that several real systems use?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Matthias Felleisen
> >> <matthias at ccs.neu.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Aaron Turon wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Reid Barton will be giving a talk about a category
> >>>> theoretic approach to version control. The stark contrast -- if
> >>>> nothing else -- should serve to highlight how deep the rabbit hole
> >>>> goes. =)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Nice :-) This kind of work keeps Racket alive. Yeah! -- Matthias
> >>>
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