[Pl-seminar] Fwd: [Boston Haskell] Thursday, September 29th, 7-9pm in the MIT CSAIL Reading Room

[Greg Morrisett]

Heh, yeah.  I remember Simon PJ saying if only we had called
monads "warm fuzzy thing" then it might have gotten traction earlier.

-Greg

On Sep 21, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Matthias Felleisen wrote:

> 
> 
> Absolutely. And we can distribute Racket via their successful system. 
> 
> 
> I should explain my remark. 
> 
> Version control is obviously a graph problem. 
> Categories are about graphs. 
> Connecting the two must happen sooner or later. 
> There might even be a benefit from doing so, 
> but count me as an extreme skeptic. 
> 
> None of this made me laugh and cry. 
> 
> What makes me laugh and cry when I see this kind of
> announcement are the memories of encountering ordinary
> programmers who complain about FP and their encounters:
> 
> "I did ML, and they showed me how to write signatures
> for groups, rings, and fields. So ML is really good for
> algebra, but is it good for programming?"
> 
> Substitute a whole bunch of bananas, apples, oranges, 
> and other names for the various technical terms in there
> and you hear this remark 100s and 1000s of times. 
> 
> FP people aren't wrong in exploiting the most abstract
> form of Category theory they want and anyone can think
> of in their work. But they can't be wronger (new word!)
> when they use these stupid words to present it to a 
> wide audience. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 21, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote:
> 
>> Sorry for the group-reply, but you mean because they produced a
>> running, working system (DARCS) that several real systems use?
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Matthias Felleisen
>> <matthias at ccs.neu.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Aaron Turon wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Reid Barton will be giving a talk about a category
>>>> theoretic approach to version control. The stark contrast -- if
>>>> nothing else -- should serve to highlight how deep the rabbit hole
>>>> goes. =)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nice :-) This kind of work keeps Racket alive. Yeah! -- Matthias
>>> 
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