[PRL] [plt-internal] Video of Clojure talk

[William D Clinger]

Shiram wrote:
> Yadda yadda.  (That's to him, not to you.)  Yes, I did hear him say
> that 2-3 times.  And I don't believe it'll make any difference to the
> JVM at this point.  Unless someone has internal information that
> suggests the JVM does plan to fix this problem.

In 1998, following my presentation at PLDI, several of
Sun's JVM people came up and thanked me for explaining
why proper tail recursion really matters.  Guy Steele,
listening, looked happy.  A couple of weeks later he
told me he had obtained an agreement to add proper tail
recursion to the JVM with its next major release.

That never happened.  Now, ten years later, we are
being asked to trust someone's vague optimism that Sun
might eventually respond to desires expressed by random
language designers.

Believe that if you want.  Hey, it could happen.

Will